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Похоже на заказуху со "шпионским" антуражем.

Цэ ж Литвиненко. О чем тут гаварыть? :lol:

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У меня из монитора жир потёк - куда сдавать ? :mrgreen:


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Насчёт уголовной идеологии понравилось.
А то, что к вершинам власти идут по трупам, так это - норма.
Сейчас на Украине в связи с делом Тимошенко всплывают кровавые делишки её оппонентов.
Больные люди (всё ради "фантиков").
В Питере, когда в газете "Новый Петербург" начали печатать материалы, что Путин с Собчаком вместе с немцами организовали наркобизнес, то убили сына главного редактора.
С Интерполом договорились.
Потом кого-то посадили из журналистов и газету закрыли.
Обычная политика.

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Похоже на заказуху со "шпионским" антуражем. Как-то все очень нарочито, переигрывают...

Фёдоров - имел активную гражданскую позицию, ну конечно, случайность - вертолёт не правильный?
Артём Боровик погиб?
Илюхин?
Собчак как-то вдруг, Литвиненко, Политковская?
Вариант 1: кто сильно натупает на хвост или много знает, того либо уговаривают, либо уходят?
Вариант 2: недруги ликвидируют серьёзных оппонентов, чтобы навести тень на плетень?
Вариант 3: Нынешня Россия - зона?
Вариант 4: Япончика ушли, а по ящику без стыда и совести "рекламировали"?
Вариант 5: Тут Хасана ушли, а которые в законе спокойно собираются вокруг и ничего не бояться?
Слишком много случайностей, что-то или нет?
И ещё - зачем оправдываться, а то скажут "на воре шапка горит"?
С волками жить, по волчьи выть?
А кто, вырос в определённой среде и ущербным мировозрением, вдруг стал пушистым
и добрым?
Не сохранил ссылку и текст, о честном прокуроре (или следователе), которого быстро отправили на пенсию (хорошо не ушли) ...
Фальши не заметил, ну наверное хорошие актёры, так сказать вжились в роль. А может я недостоточно внимателен и пропустил лажу?
Не каждый может пройти через грязь не вымазавшись, иначе уговорят/уйдут.
Тогда нам остаётся прнимать ложь и лицемерие с большой радостью и благоговением. Иначе не выжить?!


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Собчак как-то вдруг, Литвиненко, Политковская?

Магнитского тоже грохнули. Вся выгода от его смерти - у Браудера. Обвиняют путинских сатрапов, то есть, в итоге - самого Путина.
Литвиненко вообще в Англии помер. Путин дотянулся опять? Или МИ-6?

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Литвиненко вообще в Англии помер. Путин дотянулся опять? Или МИ-6?

Ну да, удобно, чтобы ему "насолить".
Я вот порой даже не улавливаю разницу: чем политические методы отличаются от уголовных?
Кроме трёпа перед микрофоном, конечно.
Герой революции Камо, потом Ягода со своими ядами, Берия.
Ну и за бугром тоже самое: всех учат правам человека параллельно с Гуантанумой.

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Прочитал мельком статью. (надо бы писать просмотрел)*
Просмотрел обсуждения. Мне есть, что сказать.

По правилам демагогия запрещена. Так чего Вы сами занимаетесь демагогией?
Название и цель статьи, определить кто есть Путин(?)
В статье приведены тактикотехнические характеристики боевой техники России и теоретического соперника. В это русло завернуло всё обсуждение. И из этого, якобы следует, что Путин не агент и не компрадор.
Это не доказательства, а чистейшей воды демагогия и тролизм.
Допустим он агент: Как он будет действовать и чего делать. Он как агент будет создавать видимость патриотической деятельности в результате которой толку будет ноль, а лучше вред. При этом "бой в барабаны" будет неимоверный.
Допустим он патриот и всё такое:
"Бой в барабаны" будет такой-же. Это зависит от человека.

Из этого следует. Если определять, с кем дело имеешь нужно судить о СДЕЛАННОМ, а не потому, что он сам о себе говорит. СМИ и в том и в другом случае принадлежат главе.
А уж "тактико + количественые" характеристики это обсуждать Маньку, и обвинять Таньку.

Если уж поставлена такая цель, то нужны другие критерии оценки. Повысилась ли боеспособность армии? В целом и общем? Как действуют командиры и как подготовлены солдаты? и это будет реальный "клочок" правды. Обо оценивать надо не только армию, но и науку, и финансы, и производство, и состояние отчётности и нет ли лжи в этих отчётах!!? И эта часть наиболее важная. Агент, он ведь обязательно будет требовать потасовок своей деятельности.
Для его "выживания" это наипервейшая примета, с которой имеет смысл начинать обсуждения.

...сейчас в СМИ трындят о создании арктических войск. Вот как это оценить с точки зрения агент патриот? Звучит лихо, а нападать будут явно не в Арктике. Затраты на порядки больше, а реальной пользы для обороноспособности на порядки ниже.
Это как танковый биатлон - деньги просадили, а отдачи около нуля. ИЛи учения - поставили мировой рекорд по по количеству одновременного десантирования десантников. Прыжки с парашютом дело нужное, но одновременное это понты корявые.


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...Это как танковый биатлон - деньги просадили, а отдачи около нуля...
ИЛи учения - поставили мировой рекорд по по количеству одновременного десантирования десантников. Прыжки с парашютом дело нужное, но одновременное это понты корявые.
Ссылок на мнения специалистов нет, квалификация автора в предмете мягко говоря не известна.
Вывод - высказывания есть бездоказательные домыслы.
Оценка действий высшего армейского руководства - крайне отрицательная.
Вывод - это не критика, а целенаправленная клевета.
Клевета - Глава 17 128.1. УК РФ писал(а):
1. Клевета, то есть распространение заведомо ложных сведений, порочащих честь и достоинство другого лица или подрывающих его репутацию...
2. Клевета, содержащаяся в публичном выступлении, публично демонстрирующемся произведении или средствах массовой информации,
- наказывается штрафом в размере до одного миллиона рублей или ... работами на срок до двухсот сорока часов.

Будем надеяться, что соответствующие службы МО "пропустят" данный пост и к Ионе не придет повестка в суд. {znaika}


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Название и цель статьи, определить кто есть Путин(?)
В статье приведены тактикотехнические характеристики боевой техники России и теоретического соперника. В это русло завернуло всё обсуждение. И из этого, якобы следует, что Путин не агент и не компрадор.
Это не доказательства, а чистейшей воды демагогия и тролизм.
Допустим он агент: Как он будет действовать и чего делать. Он как агент будет создавать видимость патриотической деятельности в результате которой толку будет ноль, а лучше вред. При этом "бой в барабаны" будет неимоверный.


Там вначале статьи указано, почему именно оборона страны выбрана в качестве показателя. Колонии НИКОГДА не позволят иметь оружие и вооружённые силы, способные одолеть войска митрополии. Почему нужно объяснять? Или хотя бы простейшие логические связи работают?

И потом. Называть "троллизмом" статью на главной странице сайта как-то странно вообще. Вы хоть понимаете смысл троллинга? Кого я там троллю? Это автора какой-то публикации обычно "троллят". Высмеивают идеи, находят мелкие огрехи, обливают грязью... Чем Вы тут и пришли заниматься, как я понял.

И статья, конечно, планировала отдельную, экономическую часть. Но из-за полученного объёма её пришлось писать отдельно. Есть статья "Заслуги Путина". Отсылаю туда по данной части.


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